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Post by minimenses on Dec 17, 2017 17:40:11 GMT
So here is an idea I’m kicking around, so gauging interest.
2018 Can-Am 1966 Can Am Proxy
A proxy series depicting the 1966 Can-Am Challenge season.
•Ideally six races, 3 in Canada, 3 in the U.S.
•The emphasis will be on scratch building. In addition to the traditional Concours, there will be a constructors’ trophy open to entrants who have created a body shell from scratch for the event.
•Chassis makeup will be open, although possibly limited to inline configuration.
•Motor choices will be a bit more open: FK 130, FK180, and S-Can (FC130) motors rated below 20,000 rpm.
•Tire makeup will likely be rubber or urethane.
These, I think are the broad strokes of it. Is this something you might be interested in?
Marc
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Post by munter on Dec 17, 2017 18:33:10 GMT
Great idea, Marc.
Can you write up some more specific rules?
The cars will have to be scratchbuilt or else you will get a field of Slotit based cars.
Regards
John
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Post by minimenses on Dec 17, 2017 19:29:37 GMT
Great idea, Marc. Can you write up some more specific rules? The cars will have to be scratchbuilt or else you will get a field of Slotit based cars. Regards John Scratch-built, yes. Still kicking the idea around, seeing how people react. So far, the feedback i have gotten is that holding the motors to <20,000 rpm is too slow. But I don't want people to be afraid of driving the cars for fear of shattering them. |
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Post by kalbfellp on Dec 17, 2017 21:01:25 GMT
If the cars have to be close to scale then the Slot It cars will not be eligible anyhow.
I think a list of eligible bodies would be a good starting point as many of the bodies produced are way too wide.
We run a Narrow Can Am club series and limit the width to 55mm and it is surprising what cars do not fit.
It may be difficult to find enough bodies to have a good field.
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Post by old23 on Dec 17, 2017 22:28:51 GMT
What Phil said is what I would be concerned about: Are there enough reasonably-to-scale plastic or resin body shells out there to make such a race interesting? I certainly don't have the skills needed to carve and mold my own shell.
Stewart
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Post by minimenses on Dec 18, 2017 0:58:03 GMT
If the cars have to be close to scale then the Slot It cars will not be eligible anyhow. I think a list of eligible bodies would be a good starting point as many of the bodies produced are way too wide. We run a Narrow Can Am club series and limit the width to 55mm and it is surprising what cars do not fit. It may be difficult to find enough bodies to have a good field. This is one reason I want to emphasize scratchbuilding, and want to have a Constructor's Trophy for entrants who create their own body shells. I know people can do it, i've seen 'em.  AS far as maximum width, I'll have to see how wide the widest thing running that year (Bizzarini?) was. The Bizzarini P538 was 1.930mm wide, so at 1/32 that would be 60.3. But, I see the George Turner McLaren M1A is 60mm wide, when it should be 50.7mm wide. Hmmm. |
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Post by minimenses on Dec 18, 2017 1:00:49 GMT
Here is a list of entrants in the 1966 season. The list may not be complete, and not all of these raced, but they did enter.
Lola T70 Mk2
McLaren M1B
McLaren M1A
Chapparal 2E
McLaren Elva
Ford GT40
Webster Special
Porsche 906
Genie Mk 10
Wolverine
Chinook Mk1
Merlyn Mk8
Lotus 23
Ferrari 250LM
McLAren Goth spl
Cobra ?
McKee Mk 6
Stanton Special
Ferrari Dino 206
Denmacher Mk. 2
Hamill SR3 Special Repco
Bizzarini P538
Burnett Mk2
Lotus 30 Cherokee
Mirage Mk1a
Lotus 19B
McKee Mk6
Brabham BT8
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Post by munter on Dec 18, 2017 1:25:51 GMT
That is exactly the width of the shell I have.
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Post by minimenses on Dec 18, 2017 14:11:06 GMT
I think a list of eligible bodies would be a good starting point as many of the bodies produced are way too wide. Since I am not in posession of all the Can Am body shells, this is where I'm going to need some help. Googling only goes so far, so if anybody out there has some useful info on eligible shells that would be of great help. It may be that some out of scale bodies might have to be allowed with a penalty assessed. The perfect is the enemy of the good. |
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Post by alexisingreece on Dec 18, 2017 16:12:19 GMT
Dino 206 GMC models 57.20
Ferrari 250 LM FLy 56 Airfix/MRRC 53.10 Racer 66.40
Porsche 906 Airfix/MRRC 52.50
Ford GT40 Scalextric 60.80
Shelby Cobra MRRC 55.70
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Post by munter on Dec 18, 2017 18:50:18 GMT
Can I/we assume that this is HQ for this proxy discussion?... as opposed to seeing bits here and there?
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Post by Chris Wright on Dec 18, 2017 18:58:49 GMT
John,
With Marc's approval I believe it is.
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Post by minimenses on Dec 18, 2017 21:27:29 GMT
This is HQ . There is another discussion on FB, but this should be considered a master list.
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Post by Chris Wright on Dec 18, 2017 21:47:29 GMT
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Post by old23 on Dec 18, 2017 22:13:08 GMT
I infrequently visit FB and can never seem to find past conversations I want on that stream of consciousness format. I think the hierarchical folders structure of a forum is much simpler to navigate and re-navigate.
I will see what I have from the above eligibility list and measure them. I assume the key parameter right now is maximum width over the rear fenders?
Stewart
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AS far as maximum width, I'll have to see how wide the widest thing running that year (Bizzarini?) was.
